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The key to handling chat pumps is to watch for their impact.
Oftentimes, their buying or selling can get covered up when they go with the trend.
However, any time they jump into a name, you should consider it a warning sign.
Think of them as added risk to a trade.
Whenever I see one in a stock, I mark it down and act more conservatively.
That doesn’t mean I won’t trade the name. I’ll just wait for 9:45 a.m. Eastern and until I see that shorts are clearly getting squeezed.
Remember, there are plenty of stocks they don’t touch. So if you aren’t sure how to handle chat pumps, stick with the plays that they avoid. -Bohen #pumps #ChatPumps #pumpanddumps
But if you’re a more experienced and disciplined trader, you don’t always have to wait until after 9:45 a.m. to trade chat pumps ----- Buy in Pre, Sell in Pre --------- Anytime you trade a chat pump in premarket and you get a $1 to $2 rip before the open and you take profits… That’s how you trade a chat pump.
I don't care if [the stock] would’ve gone to $30 after they sold. It’s not worth the risk to hold a chat pump through the market open… Because nine out of 10 times they fail. Don't overstay and watch the stock sink like a stone at the market open (turning your winner into a loser)… And the one time out of ten that a chat pump doesn’t fail at the open — you can always get back in. -Bohen #chatPumps #pumpanddumps #pump&dumps
Here, promoters will “pump” up the stock price of a bad or unknown company by using certain tactics. These tactics usually include hyping up the company via free penny stock newsletters, PR articles, and the most commonly used one these days, social media.
All the avenues are full of headlines that talk about how this completely unknown company is the new “it” company and why you should not waste anymore of your time and buy its shares.
But if you care to read the fine print in these articles, it becomes obvious that it’s full of fluff without any real information about the company. You’ll also end up finding out that these companies often pay stock promoters to hype up their company’s reputation.
Once the company’s stock reaches an inflated level, they “dump” these stocks at a huge profit. The stock price then obviously ends up decreasing and the investors are left high and dry with a huge loss in their hands.
There are other scams such as Short-and-Distort Scams, reverse merger scams, mining scams, guru scams, the No Net Sales fraud, and offshore rackets. Try not to fall for these and be smart about every decision you make as soon as the trading day begins.
Because "buy in pre, sell in pre" and the [dip and rip] are complementary patterns when it comes to trading [chat pumps].
Here’s why…
When a ‘guru’ sends out their alert to chat followers, the stock spikes in PREMARKET. But when the market opens, it will pull back as the ‘guru’ sells and premarket traders take profits…
Then as more traders come in, buying on the press release, you get a [dip and rip]… Or, if it dies it dies. -Bohen #premarket #chatpumps #Dip&Rip
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PUMP AND DUMPS
When you have illiquid pumps, and you have buy-ins, and you have a short-squeeze, it's just difficult to guess the top of the tape (where the stock will reach).... Buy-ins typically happen toward the end of the day...... You never know how far short-squeezes can go and it's very difficult to guess the top....... -Sykes
Promoters are not paid by the company (to pump the stock)... they're paid by some third party... and in the disclaimer of the promotion, they say the third party can sell shares whenever they want.... -Sykes
There's always going to be opportunities.... because small companies have to hype themselves up, for TWO reasons:
1) The insiders are going to pump up the stock, and sell their shares at inflated prices.
2) They're going to pump up their stocks so they can raise a financing ,and they can pay themselves within inflated salaries for years while making it look like they're actually trying to build the company even though they're just milking the company for salary/bonuses/expenses.
The true pump and dump promotions, after they're done, go right back down to their lows (penny levels). . . . Oft times, people believe that companies shoot up because they're sound companies. . it's the promoters. and I've given the promoters their props several times. . . (all you need is StocksToTrade breaking news to spot promos and other breaking news). . . -Tim sykes
Because "buy in pre, sell in pre" and the [dip and rip] are complementary patterns when it comes to trading [chat pumps].
Here’s why…
When a ‘guru’ sends out their alert to chat followers, the stock spikes in PREMARKET. But when the market opens, it will pull back as the ‘guru’ sells and premarket traders take profits…
Then as more traders come in, buying on the press release, you get a [dip and rip]… Or, if it dies it dies. -Bohen #premarket #chatpumps #Dip&Rip
I don’t like swing trading penny stocks that are scams, I just like day trading them... I don’t like holding more than a week or two, personally. –jackaroo #swingtrading
Stocks with the highest volume tend to be subject to manipulation (meaning they can spike more).. if a stock trades a lot of volume pre-market, then during the day it will trade a ton of volume likely.. if there's no volume, ignore because if you get in it'll be hard to get out. -brian lee
Min 2:50 ------- November,
historically, is a month where the market sees the most amount of stocks
running / spiking/ runners | that's when hedge funds pump up these small cap
stocks | zombie month -------- www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Si9tf_6yzs ..........
#season #months #november #smallCaps
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Penny stocks are in business to sell
stock. Most don't have a real product. So they make money by pumping our press
releases ... And when the stock price goes up on ‘good’ news, they dilute or do
toxic financing. That usually kills the stock's momentum, sends it off a cliff,
and burns anyone who holds shares because they believed the news. So the stock
is hot while it’s running on news and traders experience euphoria. But when the
party’s over, the stock is cold and dead... The life cycle of a chat pumper is
similar… Chat pumpers buy up shares of a stock, then alert their followers and
sell into them. So when the chat pumper has a lot of sheep that buy on their
alerts, stocks can have huge runs. But after the pumpers murder all their
sheep, their alerts go cold... So you’ll notice that there are periods when
chat pumps are hot and can move stocks. Other times, the alerts mean nothing...
So before you jump in a premarket runner, ask yourself if the pattern your
trading has been working. Or if the stock has news, has it been a good catalyst
in the current market? Is the stock you’re trading part of a hot market theme?
-Bohen #promoters #pumpanddumps #pumps #dilution #toxicFinancings #financings
#offerings #fundamentals
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~~~~~~I don't sign up for any of the promoter emails
anymore... If you're in the TimAlerts chatroom, you don't have to sign up for
any newsletters if you don't want to... you can just piggy back great traders..
ask Michael Goode and Tim Grittani in the profit.ly chat, who are on top of
every single pump, and are so kind and so giving, ask them if there's any great
pump right now in a private message...
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METHOD TO THE
MADNESS----The reason why penny stocks go up is due to a promotional
mailer.........it doesn't matter what the product is......the way they go about
it is the same exact process as every other pump (although, there's different
press releases).........it's artificial....promoters are trying to make you
believe it's trying to go higher...once the stock starts to go side-ways the
volume starts to diminish and the stock will drop.........
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Promoters do not always pump properly. you cannot trust promoters. Just
because there's a marketing budget of millions of dollars does not mean the
stock is always going to go up.
The
The promoters can easily dump a stock price.. they've done it to me. -Tim Sykes
STRATEGY---- the reason why i bought it, was because
somebody paid $3Million dollars to pump up this stock. It spiked from $3 to
$10... This stock which has no revenues, no cash, one employee, the employee is
based out of a office rental. you as a trader have to buy this (technical)
break out, when millions are being spent on pumping up a stock. Then in 2
hours, it went down from $10 to $2...
STRATEGY---- PUMP AND DUMP logic: when insiders try and pump
these stocks up is because when u award yourself millions of shares, they're
restricted. "restricted" is now 6 months... so as an insider, you're
trying to get obviously your shares at a very low price, and then you can't sell
on the run up because the shares are restricted... that's why pump and dumps are long. because they
play out over time.
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Insight---- Scam: why
do all of these insiders and promoters have millions of shares of like a
half-penny of a share. And then they're sending out mailers or tweets, or
faxes, or press releases, just trying to get the stock price higher. So, in the
SEC filings you look and see who's it benefiting if the stock really spikes.
and What we find is that by looking at these SEC filings, you
have all of these sketchy characters, and it's typically the usual suspects,
the same people over and over again.. And they hire promoters and they get the
stock up so that they can basically dump it. it's a very simple game - it's
Pump and Dump.... So by looking at the SEC filings and just seeing who owns how
many shares and at what price, and then you combine that with the knowledge
that there's a mailer out there, or 50 people are tweeting the ticker (new
ebola play!), why are they hyping it up, why is it in their interest to get
this stock price higher.... And sometimes it's not just insiders who want to
sell, sometimes the company wants to raise money at higher prices, so if you're
stock was trading at 5 cents a share no one cares about, the company might
design a 2-wk investors relations program where they'll have a press release
every single day, an they'll get their lowly 5 cent a stock that no one cares
about, they'll get it up to 50 cents or a dollar, and then do a financing with
like 20 cents a share with some institutional investors. So that way, insiders
can pay themselves a salary, and it's a lot less risk for investigation for a
pump and dump,,,,, even though the only reason they got the stock up was so
they could raise the financing at a discount price, and then gave themselves a
salary. So it's a pretty evil, unethical game, but it's pretty easy to spot if
you just look at who owns what, and then combine that with why they're pumping
this stuff. -Tim Sykes
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Insight---- If a company has so little cash, and has
millions of shares out there, then why is the stock going up? You can work your
way back and say, ok this is a pump and dump, and pump and dumps always crash.
-Tim Sykes
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ON MARKET MAKERS /
#PROMOTERS
Penny stocks are in
business to sell stock. Most don't have a real product. So they make money by
pumping our press releases ... And when the stock price goes up on ‘good’ news,
they dilute or do toxic financing. That usually kills the stock's momentum,
sends it off a cliff, and burns anyone who holds shares because they believed
the news. So the stock is hot while it’s running on news and traders experience
euphoria. But when the party’s over, the stock is cold and dead... The life
cycle of a chat pumper is similar… Chat pumpers buy up shares of a stock, then
alert their followers and sell into them. So when the chat pumper has a lot of
sheep that buy on their alerts, stocks can have huge runs. But after the
pumpers murder all their sheep, their alerts go cold... So you’ll notice that
there are periods when chat pumps are hot and can move stocks. Other times, the
alerts mean nothing... So before you jump in a premarket runner, ask yourself
if the pattern you’re trading has been working. Or if the stock has news, has
it been a good catalyst in the current market? Is the stock you’re trading part
of a hot market theme? -Bohen #promoters #pumpanddumps #pumps #dilution
#toxicFinancings #financings #offerings #fundamentals
PROMOTERS AND #PUMP AND
DUMPS AND #SHORT-#SQUEEZES
Pumpers know exactly
when to pump. They know that shorts panic at those key level.
When shorts feel trapped
and worry about a breakout, they cover their positions — which means buying
shares.
Pumpers start promoting
when the stock approaches these key levels. They know that if the shorts get
scared, the stock can go on a HUGE run (#short-squeezed).
You have traders
buying-in from the pump, and shorts buying-in to cover their positions. This is
why short squeezes can be so crazy.
The larger a stock’s
market cap and float, the harder it is to push the stock around.
That’s why almost every
chat pump is a low float stock.
Chatroom and Twitter
pumpers want to take advantage of supply and demand.
Pumpers use chatrooms or
Twitter feeds to create [fake demand] and bring in [volume]. They alert their
followers to their position and convince people the stock’s the next best
thing.
Then they sell into the
spike as buyers come in. Their goal is to profit from creating fake demand
which drives up a stock's price...
But if a stock has
plenty of supply (i.e. is a high float), a lot of demand and volume won’t move
the stock quickly.
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Pump/Promotion (newsletters, seekingAlpha, PR's) = POTENTIAL SHORT
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Min 7:30 --------
always TAKE PROFITS when you're in a low float, chat pump, chinese, press
release play; don't get GREEDY! ----------- www.youtube.com/watch?v=uERBVWFNjbs
......... #takeProfits #scalingOut
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Low
volume linked to a share-price increase is a negative sign, because any lasting
upward price movement should be confirmed with increasing volume. <--- a pump&dump setup
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***Fading VOLUME gives the sign of when a stock
is going to panic and drop..... The more volume, the higher the stock will go based on earnings news or
promotion.. As volume fades, the stock will drop.....
You can't keep pumps up forever, because pumps (promotions) are emails received
that say "buy this" buy this".. 3-days 4-days is the max for
pumps...
Buy pumps only if you can buy early in the
pumps.. and then be very quick to get out....... you have 15 minutes to get out before it drops like 90 percent... it's tough to sell
on the dumps, because they're going straight down.... TRUE PUMP AND DUMPS BEGIN VERY QUICK AND ARE OVER
VERY QUICK...
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every single penny stock pump is designed so
that whoever promoted the stock can sell their shares into a big spike at high
prices...... if there is high volume, that means the schemers are selling the
stock before the stock spikes.. all of this is artificial just to try and get
people to buy the stock..... it always ends badly......always... -Sykes <----
DO NOT go long!
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Most people who trade
penny stocks: they don't know the difference between catalysts. They don't know
about volatility. They don't check these plays intraday (they might be working,
maybe they check it once; they hold and they hope) and they just ride it all
the way down. . . . . What usually happens is once they start seeing it more,
maybe at night, after they're out of work, maybe they start seeing their
account balance and they start thinking about the implications and seeing how
far it goes down -- that's when they usually start to realize the risks of
pennystocks and they panic, and they put in a sell order maybe before they go
to work, they put in a sell order overnight --- b/c OTCs don't trade
pre-market, it usually creates a ton of sell-orders at the open, and the newbies just get crushed, because even
if you put in a sell order, doesn't mean that you're going to get executed. . .
. . . Again, they're not thinking, they're not studying . . . . . this is the
beauty of penny stocks, where you're just competing against a bunch of morons
-- unprepared financial noobs. And all these people who are believing these
companies, they're believing promoters, they ride it up and they ride it down
totally untrained. .. And if you might think that I'm being harsh,
I'm not. I'm trying to help you understand how moronic this niche is, how
truly ignorant, incompetent, and non-meticulous people are so that you can
better understand where the opportunities are. Because there's going to be a
whole bunch of people who are putting orders in to sell at the open, and it is
probably going to create a panic. Obviously the promoters could come out with a
PR, the promoters could pump it up. . . And again these people who are buying
don't know how penny stocks work. . . They're the same morons who are going to
be panicking as the stock goes lower and lower, which opens the door to another
morning panic. -Sykes
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Catalyst 18: chatroom /
twitter pump / pump&dump #Okay
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Anything with NO news is
most likely chat or twitter pumps. -[Breaking News Moderator] #catalysts
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Penny stock companies love to drop
premarket press releases to drive up their stock prices. Then a few days later
they have bad news like an offering and the stock tanks. Even if a penny stock
company tries to be legit, a Twitter pumper will get a hold of the news and
pump up the price. Then the company has to announce that it doesn’t know what’s
going on with the price movements. And the stock still tanks. Either way,
you’re screwed if you’re holding it. If you like penny stocks, that’s great.
They can offer great trading opportunities. But know how easily penny stocks
are manipulated. They don’t have real news or earnings. They’re great to day
trade, but I beg you — don’t swing trade them. -Bohen
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A stock goes on a
massive run due to a specific type of news, other companies in the same sector
start to pump out similar PRs. Then you see sympathy plays. Then the news
fizzles out and nobody cares.
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chat pumps -- nine out of 10
fail at the open.
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STRATEGY::::::::::: when a stock spikes/gaps up (esp. on positive
news).... watch for a [dip and rip (after 9:45 am)], and an [afternoon VWAP
hold breakout (after 2 pm); do not hold low float afternoon VWAP plays
overnight however #caution]......... if it pulls back (and sucks in shorts),
look for [a breakout] over that level........ keep the stock on watch
until *volume dries up* and it dies. The lower the float of the stock
(<40M), the better (the lower the market cap (<500M), the better). If it
is a chat pump that's even better.
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What I try to explain to students is that we don’t care about the
company, the offering, or why it’s pumped in chat rooms. A stock is just a
four-letter ticker that represents a potential trade opportunity — IF we see a
pattern to trade. Price action is most important. Not news, or whether it’s a
chat pump.
Min 2 ---------- how reverse splits work (gems and key details about reverse splits by Dux) ------------- youtube.com/watch?v=XX5MYOOi4XQ .............
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Before you jump into any
trade…
It’s best you know the
‘why’ behind the stock move.
Is a stock moving on a
rumor? Is it a social media or discord pump? Did the company drop a press
release? Is there a hot sector that traders are moving in on?
Most importantly, is
there a trading opportunity there that we can take advantage of?
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Is it a chat pump? (are
chats pumping the stock? ---[if yes, that is a Pump-and-Dump sentiment #TakeProfitsQuick
#TradeAfter9:45AM]
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Penny stocks are in business to sell stock. Most don't have
a real product. So they make money by pumping our press releases ... And when
the stock price goes up on ‘good’ news, they dilute or do toxic financing. That
usually kills the stock's momentum, sends it off a cliff, and burns anyone who
holds shares because they believed the news. So the stock is hot while it’s
running on news and traders experience euphoria. But when the party’s over, the
stock is cold and dead... The life cycle of a chat pumper is similar… Chat
pumpers buy up shares of a stock, then alert their followers and sell into
them. So when the chat pumper has a lot of sheep that buy on their alerts,
stocks can have huge runs. But after the pumpers murder all their sheep, their
alerts go cold... So you’ll notice that there are periods when chat pumps are
hot and can move stocks. Other times, the alerts mean nothing... So before you
jump in a premarket runner, ask yourself if the pattern your trading has been
working. Or if the stock has news, has it been a good catalyst in the current
market? Is the stock you’re trading part of a hot market theme? -Bohen
#promoters #pumpanddumps #pumps #dilution #toxicFinancings #financings
#offerings #fundamentals
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------------the next question
is: WHEN WILL THE COMPANY DO AN
OFFERING(s).......... this is the difficult part.......... in some cases
it's easier to predict an offering date --- the best we can do is look at the
stock's daily chart with technical analysis (looking at major resistance
levels)...... also check the News/PR of the company, because typically the
company will release good news/PRs to try to pump the stock price up AND THEN
ISSUE THE OFFERING to get the most bang for their buck..............................
so, knowing that a company (under variables judged above) could issue an
offering at anytime, you would not want to hold the stock overnight ---
but if you were trading the stock intraday, i would see if it could break above
the previous resistance and if it runs to the higher resistance (then once it
reaches it's utmost level, that would ideally be the resistance level to get
in Short in preparation of the potential dilution
activity/an offering the company executes (leading to a HUGE DROP in the
stock's price due to an increase in SUPPLY (of shares), in the market)
................ {source: https://youtu.be/d55SAYjBHd0}.
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If a company has so
little cash, and has millions of shares out there, then why is the stock going
up? You can work your way back and say, OK this is a pump and dump,
and pump and dumps always crash....................find SEC FILINGS at www.OTCMarkets.com - free website..
type in the ticker.. you see all the filings that the company has.. They
disclose who owns what.
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Min 40 --------- Min 44
(when SEC gets involved) --------- how PUMP AND DUMPS happen (details explained
by Sykes)--------- https://youtu.be/5nmqcpvWZQk ...............
Knowing that a stock is a pump is so important
because then you can start to piece together the predictable patterns. . . [STT
"breaking news" follows all of the newswires (so you don't need to
follow [all of them]), and alerts all of the pumps in real time]. . . .
-Tim Sykes
I knew exactly why there was a panic.. . . because i saw all of the
over-aggressive newbies in too many different chat rooms, on all of these
websites, trying to hype it like "OPTI is coming back". OPTI is one
of the most promoted names. If you ever talk bad about OPTI on twitter, just
say like, "yo this is like a blatant pump", and see all the hate you
get. Because the promoters can't let anybody mess with their house of cards,
because it can come down tumbling any second. . .. . .. . .When you have
companies that have promoters involved, they're more predictable, because the
promoters will not let it drop that much because if it ever drops 20-70% in a
day with no bounces, then guess what, the SEC comes knocking and there might be
an investigation and then the promoters are shit out of luck and they're
probably going to get investigated. So the promoted stocks can bounce the best.
Why do I like promoted companies? because they create such predictable
patterns. I don't know who the promoters are, I don't encourage them. . The
promoters are just going to always be oober positive, "this company is going
to change the world!" -- shut up, just make my predictable patterns, thank
you (lol). . . I stick to what I know. Patience is key. -Sykes
Throughout the day I am constantly trying to
predict what is going to happen, but the bottom line is you can't. In a short
time frame the results are completely random. You can have all the best
indicators, candlestick patterns, level 2 and tape reading skills, fundamental
analysis, volume forecasts, etc. and it still doesn't matter, NOBODY can
predict what will happen in the short term.
That's why it's so important to have a system that allows you to remove
yourself from the equation. If you allow yourself to trade based on what you
“think” or “see in the tape/lvl2” you WILL lose. There is so much noise in the
lvl2 and tape, so much manipulation that its better to be immune to it all and
ignore it, how can you make sense of things that are inorganic and fabricated?
You can't read the minds of pumpers/manipulators, you don't know when they will
stop propping the bids, you don't know when they will start unloading shares,
you dont know, period.
I love how all these guys on twitter claim to be fundamental experts and can
tell from filings what is going to happen. Bottom line is you DON'T know what
will happen or more importantly, WHEN it will happen.
TIPS kroyrunner FOR NEW TRADERS--------http://tradetheticker.blogspot.com/2014/02/some-tips-for-new-traders-from-old-blog.html
Tim teaches
a lot of different strategies, and trying to trade them all at once can be a
bit overwhelming, especially when first starting. In my early months as a
trader, I experimented with buying pumps, shorting pumps, trading Nasdaqs with
momentum, and even buying earnings winners. I traded with small size during
this time, because I didn’t want to blow up my account. I wanted to figure out
what strategy I was most comfortable with and what could bring me the most
profit. ... .... Ultimately, I settled on buying pumps. I was
successful with this strategy because I then spent months learning everything I
could about this one unique area - how to get early entries, how to best buy
breakouts. I watched all of Tim’s video lessons about longing pumps - I even
tracked the performance of different promoters on a spreadsheet and saved
charts to refer back to later. Almost all of my trades were buying pumps from
November until April, and only after buying pumps became second nature to me
and I’d built up some capital did I move on to working on other strategies such
as short selling. Perhaps pump and dumps won’t be your niche, but find what is
and pour all of your energy into it rather than dividing your attention.
5. Get Level
2 --- I traded my
first four months without a level 2 feed, and looking back on that time now I
can honestly say that it was like trading blind. While it isn’t quite as
helpful with Nasdaqs as it is with OTCs, it still holds quite a bit of value in
my opinion. Get it, learn how to read it, and use it to your advantage.
6.
Trade Small Early --- never
underestimate the experience factor. You aren’t truly ready until you’ve had
some time to trade for real and get some practice in. So when you get started,
use small size, get the dumb mistakes out of the way, and learn the subtleties
that only experience can teach you. Your trading account will thank you for it
in the end.
7.
Buying Pumps Early Continues to be Superior
Risk/Reward --- Getting in
quickly on pumps upon announcement continues to be one of my favorite
strategies, as well as one of my most profitable ones. The three trades above
are all trades I made on new pump announcements. Between the three of them I
made about $8,500, and I don’t think I held any of them longer than 15 minutes.
One of the most important things to note with trades like this is you MUST be
careful not to chase too much.
Strategy---------- TYPICALLY, first red days are
potential shorting opportunities (especially on pump-and-dumps)... and
First green days are potential long opportunities..... -tim sykes
Use
StocksToTrade news, OR Twitter to see the promotions of promoters promoting
These pump and dumps... or use both!
#NEWS #CATALYST #PLAYS
2. Listed stocks
that fall below $1 are subject to delisting. Companies will try to pump their
prices to stay compliant.
Min 3 -------- Min 19:30 ---------- on pumps --------
www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7w2IhPX5PY ........... #Sykes #crypto #pumps
When a stock runs 4,000%, there's bound to be a few sympathy plays in the sector... What a lot of people do is over-complicate it. . . . DRYS was going to 100%, and there was 3-4 other shippers that were running... Then from then on, anytime there was a big runner, i knew there was going to be sympathy plays. Most of the money I made in 2017 was based on that... It's something that I've always loved, and the wealth of opportunities that a good sector run can bring to longs and shorts... Does sympathy mean you have to predict, or look for a sign? Sympathy plays can be super sketchy, i don't like to chase them. My goal when there's a big runner, is to locate the possible sympathy play quickly, and then watch it for a while.... My goal is to be there before all the chatrooms realize it's a sympathy play and start pumping.... A lot of small gappers, a lot of pumping going on... we're kinda like sheep, everyone just kinda buys the same stuff and chatrooms alert other chatrooms..... Are these plays that you're in and out, or that you want to hold? It just depends... The leader of the sector was up 4000%, at some point it was going to pull super hard, and if people think the leader is going to fail, the sympathies will fail also... I'm trying to take great risk/reward.... -Roland Wolf
But the problem is too many think they’re buying the next Microsoft. The
reality is, they’re boarding the hype train.
There’s nothing wrong with riding hype — but never, ever believe it. And always
wait for...
[Michael Goode] ...He shorts a lot of pump and dumps. He holds them for
a few weeks or a few months, and he might win 50%, 60%, or 70% on one trade,
and that increases his average percent gains. But on average his dollar gains
are much smaller and this is good to show because he’s made a little over $2
million.*
[Tim Lento] primarily shorts
pumps using Interactive Brokers. Shorting is tough, but he uses the broker, he
holds it, his average gain is roughly 14%. He’s winning 80% of the time.
QUESTION: That’s awesome. Are there any red flags that you see in a
chart? Because you’re not just going to randomly buy any stock that’s up 50%.
What exactly are you looking for?
* Yeah. So that’s a good question. Even though I’m interested in a
catalyst, I’m interested in the big percent gain. That’s not to say I’m just
going to chase anything.
* If a stock is already up 100%, 200% on the day, it could also crash.
It could also drop even with the slightest bit of news.
* Also, look at a company’s balance sheet. Do they need cash? A lot of
these high flyers announce good news in the morning, getting everyone excited …
And then in the afternoon, they do a toxic financing at a 50% discount. So they
pump up their own stock. Then they dump it and raise millions to pay their
inflated salaries.
* So you have to be careful about chasing. This is why I like buying
stocks that are up 20%, 30%, 40%, not 100% or 200%. The more it’s up on any
given day, the greater the risk.
Scroll through the feed to see how traders tweeted about
the stocks. Was it pumped? Did any traders trash talk the stock? Was anyone
completely enamored by the hype?
you have to look into stocks that are up for the wrong reasons. A
promotion is up because they’re sending out mailers every day.
But by definition, with a pump-and-dump campaign, you pump up the stock,
and then the stock has to dump. So there’s a point in time before the dump and
after the pump where it’s just standing there.
Do you ever play Mortal Kombat? When you’re about to kill the character
and he’s just waving around. And it’s like, “Finish him.”
That’s the point where it’s a first red day and you just want to finish
him. So it’s fun to short the first red day. There’s often a nice morning panic
on day two, as stop loss after stop loss after stop loss gets taken out.
If you’re short, it’s like surfing a tsunami of sellers.
It’s a beautiful feeling. If you’re long… (!) You try to get out of your
position, but as the stop losses are getting taken out and the stock crashes …
there might be a 30% to 50% drop in the first five or 10 minutes.
So you can’t necessarily get out very easily on a first red day. So if
you’re long, a stock that’s up 100% to 1,000% in the past few hours or days and
it doesn’t finish high, be very careful. That little drop can turn into a
landslide.
When I came up with the seven-step framework, I had no idea it would
apply to this niche for so long. Back then, it was common for paid promoters to
pump penny stocks. When the price went up, the company dumped shares into the
market to raise money. Then the price tanked. That first big red day was a sign
for short sellers to get in.
Since then, the SEC has largely shut down promoters. Those left in the
game don’t do nearly as good of a job. Yet my framework still plays out time
and again. Penny stocks still get ahead of themselves. And meaningful first red
days are still a sign for shorts to get in.
When penny stocks go supernova they get ahead of themselves.
Think about it. How can a company that’s losing money go from a market
cap of $50 million to being worth $100 million overnight? Even with a good
catalyst, many of these stocks crash fast once they lose upward momentum. The
first red day is often a sign a penny stock’s big run is coming to an
end.
QUESTION: I know a lot of your students like to short these, but you can
kind of long them. They’re really dangerous nowadays, but that’s just
promotions. Also known as pump and dumps by some people, they were really
popular in the past. Recently, the last couple of years, they’ve kind of faded
off. Why is that?
ANSWER: If you’ve seen the movie “The Wolf of Wall Street,” you know
there’s no one wolf of Wall Street anymore.
They used to do hard copy mailings, then they resorted to email, and now
Twitter promotions. As long as you put a disclaimer on the bottom of your
advertisement saying, “Hey, we’ve been paid, $20,000 or 200,000 shares of cash
to advertise this stock to you,” technically it’s legal.
But the way that they really get their stock prices up, they do all
kinds of shady stuff in the background. Their job is — they get paid in shares
or cash or a combination — to get the stock up because whoever is paying them
is dumping the shares.
This is where the term “pump and dump” comes from, right? Their job is
to pump the shares up so that the insiders or whoever is paying, sometimes it’s
an outside party, dumps the shares.
FRAUDULANT SCHEMES
So let’s say you’re some unscrupulous businessman and you’re like, “I have
five million shares of this little piece of crap penny stock. How do I sell it?
There’s not enough volume. No one cares about it. Let me hire a firm. Let me
pay them…”
If you have five million shares and the stock is trading at $0.02 a
share and it’s worthless, you want to sell it at a dollar a share.
So, theoretically, if you sell all the shares at a dollar a share, you
make, you know, five million dollars. So let’s spend $700,000 amongst different
promoters to get the stock up from a penny to $1.
They send out tweets, they send out emails, they pump out a bunch of
press releases. “Look, we found gold. Look, we have a crypto mining company.
Look, we’re delivering weed now. Look, we have the cure for coronavirus.”
Whatever hype they can generate to get people to buy this stock that was
trading at a penny or two when no one cared about it. Let’s say they’re
successful in spending $700,000 and they get the stock up to $1.50, $1.75, $2 a
share. The insiders or whoever paid for the pump mailers or the pump tweets or
whatever they did to get the stock up, they’re selling shares all along the
way.
They’re also buying shares. They’re trying to get the stock up. So
they’re pretending that there’s more buying power than there is. They’re buying
let’s say 5,000 shares on a day or 20,000 shares on the day and selling 200,000
shares.
Maybe they want to get a stock up a lot, so they buy a hundred thousand
shares so that it’s reported on all the message boards, “Somebody bought a
hundred thousand shares.” Then they dump 300,000 shares the same day, whatever
they can do to generate interest, to get the stock up. So that — let’s say they
spend $700,000 on the promotion, maybe they spend another $300,000 buying the
stock.
So they spend a million dollars, but if they can cash out at, let’s say,
$1.50, they make $7.5 million. $7.5 million minus the $1 million they spent
getting the stock up, they make $6.5 million.
Once they sell all their shares, there’s no reason to pump it up.
There’s no reason for any more press releases. The stock crashes, usually in
one, two, three, four days.
Sometimes, the promoters don’t sell their entire stake because they do
multiple promotions so that they don’t want the stock dropping 90% because then
there might be an investigation. They might get found out and they’d have to
resort to going to Panama or Belize or Cyprus or one of these countries that a
lot of promoters seem to congregate in.
Key Point: Promoters Get Paid to Pump Stock Prices ===== Penny stocks
can experience short-lived spikes as a result of paid promoters working hard to
pump up the price. Then insiders (or whoever paid for the promotion) can sell
off their shares for a profit. It’s a tricky pattern to play, because what used
to be called the “pump and dump” scheme has evolved and changed a lot over the
years.
Key Point: Once Promoters Sell, There’s No Reason to Keep Pumping
======= Once promoters sell their shares in the hyped-up stock, there’s no
reason to keep pumping it. Usually, this leads to a crash within a few days.
Why? Remember, trading is supply vs demand. The promotions drive the price up
by creating temporary demand. After the promotion the stock tanks due to the
drop in demand.
So, usually, promoters try to drop it in an orchestrated manner, too.
This is what’s so crazy. It’s not just a pump on the way up. It’s an
orchestrated dump on the way down, although they don’t really seem to be doing
a good job lately and a lot of the promoters get investigated, their email list
gets shut down, they sell their email list. It’s just a dying industry.
The good news is, lately, we don’t even need promoters because short
sellers are the new promoters and they’re spiking stocks out faster and more
efficiently than the promoters ever did. It’s actually the exact opposite of
what short sellers want to do. It goes against everything they believe in, but
that’s what happens in a crowded market. We’re seeing these gigantic short
squeezes.
Key Point: You Don’t Have to Short Sell This Pattern to Profit ========
As Tim notes, you don’t have to be a short seller to take advantage of pumped
up stocks. These days, he prefers to go long by dip buying the morning panics
instead.
Why do promoted stocks fall so fast?
* Once the promoters
sell, there’s no reason to keep pumping the stock.
ON PUMP AND DUMPS -------- www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SVQkzDbGgs
.............
HOW TO KNOW WHEN A STOCK IS A PUMP AND DUMP ---------
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfK5wS6ADi0 ........
Key Point: Use the Leader to Find Your Winner ========= Tim usually does
better with the sympathy play than the sector leader. That’s because he lets
the leader inform his search. The idea of a stock market self-fulfilling
prophecy comes into play as traders use social media to pump their picks.
Pump and dumps don't exist anymore. . .what exists now are REVERSE
SPLITS that are pumped by the companies themselves. . . . Companies do REVERSE
SPLITS b/c the Nasdaq has minimum listed requirements (at a certain price, over
a certain amount of time, or Nasdaq kicks the stock off their listing). . . .
REVERSE SPLITS reduces the number of shares outstanding. . . you increase the
price of each share, but decrease the amount of shares available. . . . They
reduce the inventory, and up the price. . . . These companies take advantage of
the fact (of reverse splits), they put out a press release, the press release
-- brings Volume -- and volume creates unusual price action. . . so the press
release on a reverse split brings volume which tends to spike the stock. . .
-Bohen
QUESTION: are you able to identify pump and dumps watching level 1 and level 2?
ANSWER: no. . .
Remember how pumps play out longer term. . they fail.............
insiders cash out and they (the stock) gets halted......... that's really all
you have to do.........when you get bought in (on shorts), you just get
punched..... you should re-short if the pattern is there...... -Tim sykes
The insiders want to dump their shares ---- that is the ONLY reason why
you pump up a stock. . . and i have to thank them for that. -Tim sykes
#1: Pre / Early pump - most of this pumping is just to get a stock
up, and that is how these promoters and companies survive. . . these companies
are going nowhere. . . This setup is best for patient people and small accounts
looking for big percent gains. . .
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Have no expectations, just take it one pump and dump at a
time!.......When all the variables align (the right stock) (the right hype)
(the right press releases) (the right market) -- 3 out 4 stocks
follow the market, you should know that --- if you wait for all of these variables to
align the ODDS OF SUCCESS go way up........ -TIM SYKES
-
CNBC is the cause behind a lot of stock pump and dumps....don't trust
any of these financial experts.. they're not experts... don't listen to the media..........
Dumb money follows people on TV.........CNBC is one of the greatest pump and
dumpers in the world..... they don't actually profit it from it directly but
they profit from it with advertisers, with people viewing it............they
cause a lot of PUMPS...... assume the worst of everybody.........I wrote for
TheStreet.com...... they don't let you cover penny stocks... no one covers
penny stocks in the mass media....... -sykes
-
The most common players you’ll meet in penny
stocks are amateurs. They often fail to conduct research and are therefore more
likely to fall flat on their faces. Stock pickers tell you the stocks in
which they think you should invest. In many cases, you can’t trust them,
especially if they’re promoters, since they’re probably getting paid to “pump
up” a stock, which means you can’t base your decisions on their advice.
Insight------There's always new opportunities on the horizon............. you don't
need to be in a trade every single day...... there's always going to be little
piece of crap companies that need to pump their stock up so they can actually
raise money....... it's a beautiful, kind of disgusting process
(love-hate).........
#1 Pre/Early Pump --------- starts at Minute 5
------------- PSFW Part Deux – Part 2 ----------
https://members.timothysykes.com/lessons/psfw-part-deux-part-2 ............
Part 8 of pennystock framework part deux ------- min 27:30 & min
30:30 ------ snip tool the lie of the sentence he highlights,
regarding the pump & dumps.......
Part 8 of pennystock framework part deux ------------ min 28:40 - min
31 -------- how pump and dumps happen #verbatim.......
·
PUMP AND DUMP OTC --------- starts
at Min 3:16:00 in "Part 2" of Trading Techniques DVD.... Min 3:29:10
of "Part 2 ORIGINAL" vid....
Nasdaq vs OTC pump and dumps ----------- Min 3:29:00 of "Part 2
ORIGINAL" vid...
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What is a pump and dump? .......... If you've seen the
"wolf of wall-street" or "boiler room".. you have these
insiders who have millions of shares of this worthless junk company and they
send out mailers\telemarketing phone calls (whatsapp, twitter, social media and
they buy adds on different financial websites) and they market this piece of
shit company so that they can sell their millions of shares for inflated
prices..... they're getting 10 million shares at a few pennies, and they say
"this company found gold in Peru!".. and they mark it up and they try
and get it up to $1 or $2 a share ... They pump it up in marketing, but once
they sold most or all their shares, they don't market anymore and these stocks
drop 40+% in a day........ Patterns have not changed because
pump-and-dumps are running the same......... -tim sykes
Sykes likes shorting DESCENDING TRIANGLES —
especially when there’s ad news or the stock was a blatant pump ...
METHOD TO THE MADNESS----The reason why penny stocks go up is
due to a promotional mailer.........it doesn't matter what the product
is......The way they go about it is the same exact process as every other pump
(although, there's different press releases).........it's
artificial....promoters are trying to make you believe it's trying to go
higher...once the stock starts to go side-ways the volume starts to diminish and
the stock will drop.........
STRATEGY---- Always look for shares to short... It's very
difficult to lose, when trading pump and dumps , when you know they're pump and
dumps... -Tim Sykes
Insight--- Lots of my millionaire students like to short penny
stock pumps......... -Tim Sykes
My largest loss was over $84,000. I learned a few important lessons from
this trade. First, I learned that it is important to never have a large
position in an illiquid stock. Second, I learned that the one big risk to
short-selling pumps for longer periods of time is the risk of a forced buy-in
when my broker can no longer lend shares for me to short. -Michael Goode
INSIGHT------- Low volume linked to a share-price increase is a negative sign, because
any lasting upward price movement should be confirmed with increasing volume.
<--- a pump&dump setup
Fading
VOLUME gives the sign of when a stock is going to panic and drop.... As volume fades,
the stock will drop..... you can't keep pumps up forever, because pumps (promotions) are
emails that say "buy this" buy this".. 3-days 4-days is
the max for pumps...
STRATEGY------ i focus
on specific buy points, sell points, & specific catalysts. i don't just
short a stock because i see the pump is over...what i'm looking for is IF THE
NEWS IS NOT WORTH IT.. so then i can short-sell.........most pumps fail in the
$3,4,5 dollar range.
RULES FOR SHORTING PENNY STOCK PUMPS
Insight--- ~~some stock pumps can last days, weeks, so you don't have to start
SHORTING right away.
Insight---When volume fades and once the e-mailers fade, it's inevitable the
stock crashes too...but some pumps put up a fight before crashing.
Strategy---~~~~~Look for failed breakouts, slightly red day and afternoon
breakdowns to signal a possible morning panic the next day.
Strategy---~~~~~I love being SHORT during morning panics........and covering into
a tsunami of sellers.
Strategy---~~the higher the stock goes, the better for me as a short-seller, because
i know the end is zero.
~~~~be careful if a pump doesn't morning
panic........this is promoters purposely squeezing you..... if you're aiming
for a big panic and you don't get it, i like to cover and cut my losses quick.
Insight---~~Shorting pumps long-term sounds logical and great, but it is
expensive due to fees (margin interest).
!!!!!!!~~SHORTING ON FRIDAYS, Be scared shorting on Fridays, especially in
the afternoon........watch out for Friday short squeezes..
Strategy---~~SHORTING A HALTED STOCK...if you short a pump that gets halted, THAT
IS GREAT... But it's not an exact science so don't aim to predict halts.....a halt is really good for short-sellers b/c
if you're shorting a blatant pump, they're going to do an investigation and
will see these artificial mailers.... and you will cover for 50-99% gains
within a day or two...
NON-PENNY STOCK PUMPS
~~When you're shorting a non-penny stock pump,
it can be very scary. -Tim Sykes
~~You don't need to be glued to the computer
every second. The best plays happen over several days when shorting non-penny
stocks. -Tim Sykes
Strategy---------If you just wait for great setups: wait for pump and dumps to short-sell
them when they come about... Wait for these hot sectors like marijuana and the
Ebola and the police camera.. wait for ridiculous run-ups that aren't based but
on one patent.. Even if you only check into the markets once a day, look at the
%Gainers.. the crashes don't come but about a few days later, Day 6.. -Tim
Sykes
Strategy------i like to short on technical breakdowns.. .on true paid pumps i
like to short on a first red-day... -Tim Sykes
We all know that OTC pumps are worthless... but it's money that controls
markets.. who holds the most shares, and what they want to
do with the stock... then once they're done controlling it, then it
fades back down to zero... -Tim Grittani
HOW TO----------- The first down day, in a paid pump, is usually the
beginning of the end. <-- then is when you want to SHORT SELL (DURING THE
FIRST DOWN DAY, OF A PAID PUMP). #greatOpportunity
I have made millions over the past decade and now my students have made
millions over the past few years mainly shorting pump and dumps, but there
aren't unlimited shares available to short hence why I'm a teacher and not a
hedge fund manager... -Sykes
When a stock gets halted, it usually drops 100% of the time
(afterwards)... The government knows what's going on... The government halts
the stock to protect investors... crazy stuff happens when you have these
companies that are just bullshit..... Short-selling a pump when the volume has
already started to fade after it's spiked is one of the safest trades... As
long as there are pumps, I'll keep shorting them...... -tim sykes
It's good to be aggressive (in shorting)
pump-and-dumps after they crash.... They crack so quickly (i.e. $.50 cents
inside of an hour)... .-Tim Sykes
Min 17:45 -------- when SHORTING pumps -----
take small sizes and big sizes according to these plays -------------
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -------------- www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8QS39_usz4
..............
-FInd stocks that have gapped up on news in the
morning (note the news is usually bullshit pump). --You can find premarket
movers at thestockmarketwatch.com, under the tab premarket (free scanner, why
pay for shit)
Two things will happen at the open:
A) a spike at the open (where
pumpers/chat rooms pumped it up). let it spike, the higher the spike the
better. Don't have any fomo, just let it run, no fear the chat room pumpers
will dump it on there chat members soon (usually around 0945). it will
pullback. After the pullback short the pop going back into the spike. Your
clear risk is above the spike. Ride that baby down. (the reason it works is
psychological, we can discuss if you wish)
B) A dump at the open. The stock opens and
just dumps hard. massive panic (think FRAN on 7/28). Let it dump, relax, drink
your coffee and watch it, you are waiting for a pop. On the dumps at the open,
I like to use a pop into VWAP or the high of the opening candle. Your risk is the
high of opening candle or the pivot that will be created at VWAP. ride that
baby down.
Note: If you are a beginner you can use a
standard deviation band indicator to help identify the top and bottom. After
about a month you won't need it, you'll just see it. Matrix like, trust. facts.
Shorting the first red day on recent pump and
dumps (SHORTING FIRST RED DAY)........ one my three favorite patterns (other
two are: buying morning dip-buys, buying first green days)..... -Sykes
When shorting a first red day pattern, think:
how many days can a pump and dump spike before the first red day........ see
the pump and dumps (wait for the plays), look for stocks promoted in different
channels, wait for it to spike a number of days, and start looking when a pump
and dump starts turning down....... form a thesis (identify a pattern), wait
for the pattern to happen again and again and again, trade it with a small
position, and keep meticulous track (you are a scientist)...... always
experiment with new patterns......... the key is: always adapting..... -Sykes
Shorting into pump and dumps is nice, but until you have the right
pattern, shorting into pump and dumps is dangerous..... -Sykes
Min 20 - Min 22 ----------- That's how stock's move, they move with momentum first...... Momentum is a big thing. The stronger the stock the better, which is counter-intuitive for many people but it's true (stocks that make the biggest moves are usually the ones that KEEP MAKING THE BIGGEST MOVES.. and I'm not talking about meme stocks or pump and dumps, but mid-cap and large-cap stocks; that's not really the type of stock's i swing trade (even though if i was still a day-trader i would trade them intraday b/c those are the ones that have the biggest intraday range)).......Buying breakouts and selling after Day 3 or Day 5 is how Qullamaggie trades breakouts typically (he will AT LEAST sell 20% - 30% of his shares by Day 3 or Day 5, depending on how strong/well the stock is still performing ---------- www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0F73Sq90j0 ........ #breakouts
The OTC market is so hot and cold..... If it is a stock that is either being pumped, or if it's in a hot sector at the time, the technicals will be pure with the possibility of a green-day to extend into a gap-up and second green day..... But the vast majority of days i don't see OTCs in favor.... judge the market environment........ -Grittani
PUMPS CREATE PREDICTABLE STOCK PATTERNS (7-step
framework)
PROMOTERS PUMPING UP STOCKS
PREDICTING PRICE ACTION
Do not buy a pump after the tape has risen 200%
in 2 days...... #patterns -Sykes
Do not buy a pump after the tape has risen 200%
in 2 days...... #patterns -Sykes
Do not buy a pump after the tape has risen 200%
in 2 days...... #patterns -Sykes
Do not buy a pump after the tape has risen 200%
in 2 days...... #patterns -Sykes
Hype and speculation provide trading opportunities.
Newbies LOVE to jump in during a penny stock pump or a perfectly timed press
release.
Min 5:30 - Min 8 ---------- pumpers are fickle, and on to the next pump, so when the stock rejects VWAP and dips below low of day, etc., it then is a great time to SHORT| short using VWAP as support (when it breaks VWAP, cover your short) !!!!!!!!!! GREAT VID -------- www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBow5Dkc5Wo ........ #shorting #alexTemiz #pumpers #MIC
Min 5 ------- Min 16:30 (temiz doesn't use Level 2 when shorting) ------------ gems on shorting / pump and dumps!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ----------- www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPg_gPZUFUg ........... #shorting #alexTemiz
Have no expectations, just take it one pump and dump at a time!.......When all the variables align (the right stock) (the right hype) (the right press releases) (the right market) -- 3 out 4 stocks follow the market, you should know that --- if you wait for all of these variables to align the ODDS OF SUCCESS go way up........ -TIM SYKES
Insight------There's always new opportunities on the horizon............. you don't need to be in a trade every single day...... there's always going to be little piece of crap companies that need to pump their stock up so they can actually raise money....... it's a beautiful, kind of disgusting process (love-hate).........